Minnesota Senators waffled on their votes on the Defense Authorization Bill, parts of which will end civilian rule of the U.S. if Obama does not veto the bill (and then if his veto is not overridden).  Right now there are not enough votes to override a presidential veto so there is a strong likelihood Obama won’t even try to veto it.

This law will effectively answer Ben Franklin’s famous response to the lady’s question about what form of government had resulted from the Constitutional Convention as this will effectively end the Republic and install military rule in the U.S.  I think even FBI Director Mueller and DOD Chief Panetta spoke out against these provisions as they are so incredibly dangerous.

 See the descriptions below including the statement that “American citizens are not immune from being treated like an enemy if they take up arms against the United States, the CIA general counsel said on Thursday.”

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But even the CIA statement is sugar-coated and disingenuous in that one doesn’t need to “take up arms” in order to be a “combatant,” as the government is defining these terms. Al-Awlaki didn’t take up arms; he provided material support to terrorism by his advocacy of resistance to U.S. policy (which would include resistance to coalition partners, such as Israel, NATO, etc.) Material support can be nothing more than providing financial support to the Gaza Flotilla, for example.

Under the new NDAA, there will now be authority for a U.S. citizen, resident in the U.S., to be detained under the Law of War and transferred into military custody, at Guantanamo or elsewhere. The argument is more about whether that shall be mandatory or if the President will retain some discretion in that decision.

 If anyone has information counter to my assessment and descriptions, please let me know!

 At this point, hundreds of thousands of people here should be screaming out loud but the past decade of propaganda has apparently worked so well and American apathy and distraction is so great, that there is nothing but mostly silence.

 Could it be that everyone is so intimidated from going public?!

 We all need to go public immediately asking Obama to veto the Defense Authorization Bill as it ends a large portion of the Bill of Rights and overturns 150 years of Posse Comitatus law that prevented the military from acting domestically on US citizens.  Call all Senators and Congressmen as well as Panetta and media sources.

Coleen Rowley

Breaking News and Commentary from Citizens for Legitimate Government

01 Dec 2011

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Americans not immune if they act against U.S: CIA <http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/01/us-usa-security-idUSTRE7B02ZQ20111201>  01 Dec 2011 American citizens are not immune from being treated like an enemy if they take up arms against the United States, theCIA general counsel said on Thursday.CIA General CounselStephenPreston was responding to a question at an American Bar Association national security conference about the killing of Americans overseas without presenting evidence of wrongdoing. ACIA drone strike killed Anwar al-Awlaki, an American-born cleric linked to AlQaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, earlier this year.

Senate votes to allow indefinite detention of Americans <http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/1211/Senate_votes_to_allow_indefinite_detention_of_Americans.html?showall>  01 Dec 2011

The Senate on Thursday evening essentially blessed the indefinite detention of American citizens who join Al Qaeda. By a 45-55 vote, senators rejected an amendment from Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) that would have excluded U.S. citizens from the detention authority created by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force passed in 2001 after the Sept. 11 attacks [inside job].

Feinstein’s amendment would have inserted language excluding Americans into the detainee provisions of the Senate version of the National Defense Authorization Act. An earlier Feinstein amendment seeking to limit new detention-related rules to prisoners captured outside the U.S. also failed <http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/1211/Senate_votes_to_apply_new_detainee_policy_in_US.html> , on a 45-55 vote.

Senate Declines to Clarify Rights of American Terror Suspects Arrested in U.S. <http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/02/us/senate-declines-to-resolve-issue-of-american-qaeda-suspects-arrested-in-us.html>  02 Dec 2011 The Senate on Thursday decided to leave unanswered a momentous question about constitutional rights in the war against Al Qaeda [al-CIAduh]: whether government officials have the power to arrest people inside the United States and hold them in military custody indefinitely and without a trial.

Lawmakers voted 99 to 1 to say the bill does not affect “existing law” about people arrested inside the United States. The disputed provision would bolster the authorization enacted by Congress a decade ago to use military force against the perpetrators of the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

It says the government may imprison suspected members of Al Qaeda or its allies in indefinite military custody. Before voting to leave current law unchanged, the Senate rejected, 55 to45, a proposal by Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, to instead say that Americans are exempt from detention under the 2001 authorization to use military force.  Sen.Klobuchar voted against this protection for U.S. citizens.

Senate Approves $662 Billion ‘Defense’ Bill <http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=143029733>  01 Dec 2011 Ignoring a presidential [phony] veto threat, the Democratic-controlled Senate on Thursday overwhelmingly approved a massive, $662 billion defense bill that would require the military to hold suspected terrorists linked to ‘al-Qaida’ or its affiliates, even those captured on U.S. soil. The vote was 93-7 for the bill authorizing money for military personnel, weapons systems, national security programs in the Energy Department, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in the fiscal year that began Oct. 1.

The Peace Community position is closer to that of the Chamber of Commerce than that of our two DFL Senators

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